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		<title>FANNZ press release on Yahoo&#8217;s news feed.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 01:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I didn't intend to write another post on this subject so soon after the last one, but a story on yahoo.com's news feed has really annoyed me. I know journalists these days are seriously under pressure, but that doesn't really justify taking a 'press release' from a known activist organisation and running it uncritically ie [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t intend to write another post on this subject so soon after the last one, but a story on yahoo.com&#8217;s news feed has really annoyed me. I know journalists these days are seriously under pressure, but that doesn&#8217;t really justify taking a &#8216;press release&#8217; from a known activist organisation and running it uncritically ie without actually looking into any of the claims made therein. You&#8217;ll find the story <a href="http://www.voxy.co.nz/health/fluoridation-promoters-too-scared-debate-expert/5/180440">here</a>(edit: no longer on Yahoo), &amp; I&#8217;m going to comment on some of the claims it contains below. (I would have done it directly on the yahoo.com piece but they don&#8217;t actually allow comments, grumble grumble mutter.)</p>
<p>Dr Paul Connett is currently visiting NZ and Australia to promote the views of the anti-fluoridation organisation FAN and its antipodean sub-groups. While he has reportedly spent 17 years &#8216;researching&#8217; issues associated with community water fluoridation (CWF), he has published neither original research papers on this particular topic nor a systematic review of the existing scientific literature, in leading science journals. He has, however, published a book on the subject, the contents of which formed the basis of an <a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2014/01/28/download-the-fluoride-debate/">extensive discussion</a> on the Open Parachute science blog (also syndicated to the Science Media Centre&#8217;s <a href="http://sciblogs.co.nz">sciblogs.co.nz</a>). This output doesn&#8217;t really justify the &#8216;expert&#8217; description so adroitly promoted by the FANNZ spokesperson who provided the yahoo item.</p>
<p>Repeated calls for a &#8216;debate&#8217; are rather misleading as they suggest that there is in fact something to debate. In the case of the science behind CWF, as Sir Peter Gluckman <a href="http://www.pmcsa.org.nz/blog/what-is-in-the-water/">has said, it is effectively settled</a>. To call for a debate is simply an attempt to sow doubt and fear in people&#8217;s minds, and any such event would be &#8216;won&#8217; by the better demagogue and not necessarily on the basis of the actual science presented. Thus it makes perfect sense for TV3 to seek comment from Dr Jonathan Broadbent, who has a solid research record around oral health, rather than to opt for the flawed &#8216;debate&#8217; format &amp; so give some feeling of false equivalency to an issue where none exists.</p>
<p>The FANNZ claim that our health officials are &#8220;<div class="fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 hundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling" style="background-color: #ffffff;background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-top: 0px;border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;border-color:#eae9e9;border-style:solid;" ><div class="fusion-builder-row fusion-row"><div class="fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><div class="fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy" style="background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;">[advocating] a highly toxic chemical be added to the drinking water of over 2 million people&#8221; is an attempt to imply that this practice is doing harm. However, there is no good evidence that the fluoridated water coming from the taps actually causes significant adverse health effects. Nor have health officials &#8220;gone into hiding&#8221; (as stated in the yahoo story), as Dr Broadbent&#8217;s willingness to be interviewed clearly demonstrates,</p>
<p>What are the facts that FANNZ is so keen for New Zealanders to hear? The organisation certainly seems keen to obscure the evidence that community water fluoridation improves oral health (<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18584000">here</a>, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2925001/">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v192/n9/full/4801410a.html">here </a>, for example) and is a cost-effective way of doing so. The spokesperson comments that it &#8220;is [health officials&#8217;] responsibility to provide people with real factual information&#8221; &#8211; and appears to be ignoring the fact that the <a href="http://www.rph.org.nz/content/14350004-1cf6-45ad-a32d-d35311bfe2fc.html">National Fluoride Information Service</a> has been set up to do just that. And just yesterday dental health experts <a href="http://sciblogs.co.nz/open-parachute/2014/02/05/the-fluoride-debate-what-do-the-experts-say-2/">provided commentary on fluoridation</a> via the Science Media Centre.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said, many large-scale systematic reviews have found that there is good evidence that ingesting fluoride reduces decay &#8211; and, contrary to the claim in the original press release &#8211; the evidence of &#8220;unacceptable health risks&#8221; is not &#8220;growing daily&#8221;. For example, the claim that fluoride is implicated in development of osteosarcoma appears to be based on a single preliminary study, and is not supported by more <a href="http://sciblogs.co.nz/bioblog/2014/02/03/fluoride-cancer-claims-exaggerated-it-looks-that-way/">recent large-scale analyses</a>. Similarly the &#8216;Harvard&#8217; review, often cited as evidence that fluoridation affects IQ, has a number of flaws, some of which were identified <a href="http://www.rph.org.nz/content/0aa90527-32ea-4375-9a98-112624c02c0e.cmr">by the authors themselves</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://Yahoo.com">Yahoo.com</a>, it&#8217;s a real pity you didn&#8217;t look into this one rather more deeply.</p>
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<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2014/02/fannz-press-release-on-yahoos-news-feed/">FANNZ press release on Yahoo&#8217;s news feed.</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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		<title>A look into osteosarcoma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2014 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>My friend &amp; blog-buddy Grant drew my attention to a story about osteosarcoma at stuff.co.nz - and to the comments section, where one commenter raised the issue of a claimed link between this rare form of cancer and community water fluoridation (CWF). This particular claim has surfaced quite a lot lately, as anti-fluoride groups target [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend &amp; blog-buddy Grant drew my attention to a story about osteosarcoma at stuff.co.nz &#8211; and to the comments section, where one commenter raised the issue of a claimed link between this rare form of cancer and community water fluoridation (CWF). This particular claim has surfaced quite a lot lately, as anti-fluoride groups target various local body councils around the country.</p>
<p>The claim is based on a published PhD study by Bassin (Bassin et al. 2006), who looked at a sample of 103 children with osteosarcoma and 215 matched controls, and concluded that there was a link between exposure to fluoride and the development of osteosarcoma in boys, but not in girls. They also noted that the findings were preliminary and needed further study, preferably involving biomarkers eg fluoride levels in bone. (Thus it&#8217;s interesting, to say the least, that this study is promoted so definitively by those opposed to CWF.) And in fact there have been a number of further studies &#8211; none of which support the Bassin group&#8217;s findings.</p>
<p>For example, in 2011 Kim et al published the results of a case-control study of 137 osteosarcoma patients and 51 controls. They measured the amount of fluoride present in the bones of patients and control individuals (in this case, patients with other forms of cancer), made allowances for age (&amp; thus duration of exposure to fluoride in drinking water) and gender. The team used the bone assay because, since &#8220;fluoride has an affinity for calcified tissues&#8221; (ibid.), levels in the bone are a more reliable, objective measure of fluoride exposure than measurements based on residential history or &#8211; in the case of the paper by Bassin et al &#8211; interviews with patients about their use of fluoridated mouthwashes &amp; supplements, in addition to information on where they&#8217;d lived.</p>
<p>The team found there was &#8220;no significant difference in bone fluoride levels between cases and controls&#8221;, and concluded that</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<div class="fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-2 hundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling" style="background-color: #ffffff;background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;margin-bottom: 0px;margin-top: 0px;border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;border-color:#eae9e9;border-style:solid;" ><div class="fusion-builder-row fusion-row"><div class="fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-1 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><div class="fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy" style="background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;">[n]o significant association between bone fluoride levels and osteosarcoma risk was detected in our case-control study, based on controls with other tumor diagnoses.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>They also characterised Bassin&#8217;s study as &#8216;exploratory&#8217; and noted that a large number of earlier animal studies, and descriptive and case-control studies in humans, had not found any association between osteosarcoma &amp; fluoride exposure.</p>
<p>Again, in 2012 Levy and Leclerc used information covering the period 1999-2006 from the Centres for Disease Control database to probe the supposed link between CWF and this form of cancer. This was a weaker study than that of Kim&#8217;s team, because it used the proportion of a state&#8217;s population exposed to CWF as the proxy for fluoride exposure, but it concluded that</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;the water fluoridation status in the continental U.S. has no influence on osteosarcoma incidence rates during childhood and adolescence.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Most recently, Blakey and colleagues (2014) studied more than 4,000 patients with either osteosarcoma (N = 2566) or Ewings sarcoma (N = 1650), with the aim of their study being</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;to examine whether increased risk of primary bone cancer was associated with living in areas with higher concentrations of fluoride in drinking water.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Their conclusions?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The findings from this study provide no evidence that higher levels of fluoride (whether natural or artificial) in drinking water in [Great Britain] lead to greater risk of either osteosarcoma or Ewing sarcoma.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, to date the further research Bassin&#8217;s team called for has not replicated their findings, and means that claims of a causal link are questionable at best.</p>
<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="6mm8q-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$6mm8q"><span data-offset-key="6mm8q-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$6mm8q.0:$6mm8q-0-0"><span data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$6mm8q.0:$6mm8q-0-0.0">Also in 2011, Comber &amp; colleagues compared osteosarcoma in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. While anti-fluoride groups regularly claim that osteosarcoma rates are higher in the Republic of Ireland, where water is fluoridated, and lower in Northern Ireland where CWF has never been implemented, Comber et al found no evidence for such an association:</span></span></div>
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<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="7clq3-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$7clq3"><span data-offset-key="7clq3-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$7clq3.0:$7clq3-0-0"><span data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$7clq3.0:$7clq3-0-0.0">&#8220;The results of this study do not support the hypothesis that osteosarcoma incidence in the island of Ireland is significantly related to public water fluoridation.&#8221; </span></span></div>
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<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="c1qh0-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$c1qh0">Note that they did add a caveat, related to their small sample size:</div>
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<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="c1qh0-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$c1qh0">&#8220;this conclusion must be qualified, in view of the relative rarity of the cancer and the correspondingly wide confidence intervals of the risk estimates.&#8221;</div>
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<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="22noo-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$22noo"><span data-offset-key="22noo-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$22noo.0:$22noo-0-0"><span data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$22noo.0:$22noo-0-0.0">However, subsequent studies (listed above) have borne out their results.</span></span></div>
<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="8gtnp-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$8gtnp"><span data-offset-key="8gtnp-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$8gtnp.0:$8gtnp-0-0"> </span></div>
<div class="_209g _2vxa" data-block="true" data-offset-key="evojm-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$evojm"><span data-offset-key="evojm-0-0" data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$evojm.0:$evojm-0-0"><span data-reactid=".6.1:3:1:$comment657208794317468_6500669:0.0.$right.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.1.0.$evojm.0:$evojm-0-0.0"><a href="http://www.rph.org.nz/content/bfbc14c2-6ed0-4e05-a5bc-7c5f0647ff6e.cmr">The New Zealand National Fluoridation Information Service</a> also has some excellent information around this issue, including an analysis of data from the national cancer registry which again suggests no link between CWF and osteosarcoma.</span></span></div>
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<p>Sources:</p>
<p>E.B.Bassin, D.Wypij, R.B.Davis, M.A.Mittleman (2006) <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596294">Age-specific fluoride exposure in drinking water and osteosarcoma (United States)</a>. Cancer Causes Control 2006(17): 421-428</p>
<p>K.Blakey, R.B.Feltbower, R.C.Parslow, P.W.James, B.G.Pozo, C.Stiller, T.J.Vincent, P.Normal, P.A.McKinney, M.F.Murphy, A.W.Craft, &amp; R.J.Q.McNally (2014) <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24425828">Is fluoride a risk factor for bone cancer? Small area analysis of osteosarcoma and Ewing sarcoma diagnosed among 0-49-year-olds in Great Britain, 1980-2005</a>. Int.J.Epidemiol, doi: 10.1093/ije/dyt259. First published online: January 14, 2014.</p>
<p>F.M.Kim, C.Hayes, P.L.Williams, G.M.Whitford, K.J.Joshipura, R.N.Hoover, C.W.Douglass, &amp; the National Osteosarcoma Etiology Group (2011) <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21799046">An assessment of bone fluoride and osteosarcoma</a>. J.Dent.Res. 90(10): 1171-1176. doi: 10.1177/0022034511418828, PMCID: PMC3173011</p>
<p>M.Levy &amp; B.S.Leclerc (2012) <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22189446">Fluoride in drinking water and osteosarcoma incidence rates in the continental United States among children and adolescents</a>. Cancer Epidemiol. 36(2): e83-88. doi: 10.1016/j.canep.2011.11.008. Epub 2011 Dec 19.</p>
<p>H.Comber, S.Deady, E.Montgomery &amp; A.Gavin (2011) <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21479915">Drinking water fluoridation and osteosarcoma incidence on the island of Ireland</a>. Cancer Causes Control 22(6): 919-924. doi: 10.1007/s10552-011-9765-0<div class="fusion-clearfix"></div></div></div></div><style type="text/css">.fusion-fullwidth.fusion-builder-row-2 { overflow:visible; }</style></div></p>
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		<title>Nobel Prize winners and fluoridation</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We've frequently been told that '14 Nobel prize winners in chemistry &amp; medicine oppose fluoridation', which, while superficially impressive, is really just an argument from authority. (Most of those listed are dead, so it's difficult to gain personal confirmation of their stance.) It's also a fairly trivial figure, as Terry Cuttress has pointed out: "Since [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve frequently been told that &#8217;14 Nobel prize winners in chemistry &amp; medicine oppose fluoridation&#8217;, which, while superficially impressive, is really just an argument from authority. (Most of those listed are dead, so it&#8217;s difficult to gain personal confirmation of their stance.) It&#8217;s also a fairly trivial figure, as Terry Cuttress has pointed out:</p>
<p>&#8220;Since 1960, there have been 177 Nobel Prize winners in chemistry and medicine. Therefore, only 8% of these prize winners opposed or had reservations about fluoridation. Dr Connett does not differentiate between the number of the 14 who had reservations and those who were opposed. The only correct inference from the data from the Nobel Prize winners is that many of them supported fluoridation or had no firm viewpoint.&#8221;<br />
(from <a href="http://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/response-50-reasons-oppose-fluoridation_1.pdf">http://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/pages/response-50-reasons-oppose-fluoridation_1.pdf</a>)</p>
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		<title>Waugh&#8217;s claim that the decline in maths is from fluoridation</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alison Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>From Declan Waugh's FB page "The data on Fluoride exposure and IQ presented at the Tehran Conference helps to explain Ireland's ranking of 26th of 34 participating OECD countries for students skills and knowledge in Mathematics in the Programme on International Student Assessment." Waugh links to a press release from the Irish Parliament, which clearly [...]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2013/10/waughs-claim-that-the-decline-in-maths-is-from-fluoridation/">Waugh&#8217;s claim that the decline in maths is from fluoridation</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="https://www.facebook.com/declan.waugh">Declan Waugh&#8217;s FB page</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The data on Fluoride exposure and IQ presented at the Tehran Conference helps to explain Ireland&#8217;s ranking of 26th of 34 participating OECD countries for students skills and knowledge in Mathematics in the Programme on International Student Assessment.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Waugh links to a <a href="http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/mediazone/pressreleases/2011/name-2067-en.html">press release</a> from the Irish Parliament, which clearly refers to the 2009 data, (the 2012 results will not be available until 3 December this year), and then attempts to link Ireland&#8217;s results to water fluoridation in that country.<br />
Water&#8217;s been fluoridated in Ireland (in urban centres anyway) since the 1970s. For the 2009 PISA results Ireland was significantly below OECD average in Maths, significantly above for science &amp; the &#8216;reflect &amp; evaluate&#8217; component of literacy, &amp; not significantly different from the average for all other aspects of literacy. In 2006 Irish students&#8217; results for science were significantly above the OECD average, while maths was on the average, and overall literacy was average or above average. It would appear that there was little change between 2000 &amp; 2003 (possible improvement in some areas), &amp; 2003 data appear comparable to 2006.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<br />
So how likely is it that Waugh&#8217;s claim that the decline, particularly in maths, noted in 2009 data is due to fluoridation? Can this really underpin a sudden &amp; recent decline in students&#8217; cognitive abilities? (And why wouldn&#8217;t that have been noted earlier, given the duration of fluoridation in that country?) I suspect changes in the Irish economy may have had a greater impact on student performance &amp; the education system in general, considering that they&#8217;ve been running austerity budgets since 2008 &#8211; budgets which cumulatively have taken 28 billion Euros out of the economy.</p>
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		<title>References in &#8216;The Case Against Fluoride&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Various commenters on the Uni's Facebook page for our Google Hangout earlier this week have urged me &amp; my colleagues to read The Case Against Fluoride, by Drs Connett, Beck &amp; Micklem. One of the reasons we should do is, we're told, is because it's got a whole 80 pages of references (or, as one commenter [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Various commenters on the Uni&#8217;s Facebook page for our Google Hangout earlier this week have urged me &amp; my colleagues to read The Case Against Fluoride, by Drs Connett, Beck &amp; Micklem. One of the reasons we should do is, we&#8217;re told, is because it&#8217;s got a whole 80 pages of references (or, as one commenter put it, over 1000 references). Which sounds impressive. (<a href="https://aswla.wordpress.com/2013/08/22/please-acknowledge-professor-paul-connett-exchanges-with-journalist-neil-keene/">Dr Connett says it himself</a>: &#8220;You will note that every argument in this book is backed up with references to the scientific literature &#8211; 80 pages in all.&#8221;) But because I do like to check impressive-sounding numbers (especially when they&#8217;ve been used as a persuading point), when I got hold of a copy of the book, the References section was the first place I went.</p>
<p>References are separated into two Appendices and the &#8216;Endnotes&#8217;, which together add up to around 80 pages. At least some sources of those in the appendices don&#8217;t appear to be cited in the main body of the work, which surprised me a bit: if the material in them is relevant to the book&#8217;s core thesis, then personally I&#8217;d expect to see them cited therein.</p>
<p>On to the endnotes: the first thing I noticed is that a fair number of sources appeared to have been listed multiple times, even within a single chapter. This does have the effect of pumping up the size of the references section. How much? I sat down &amp; did a quick count (&amp; yes, I may have missed some).</p>
<p>Looking only at duplicate references within chapters (not between, although there was some duplication there), I found 389 examples where the same source is given multiple citation numbers: 31% of the total 1244 numbered references in the Endnotes are duplicates. That leaves 855 &#8216;single&#8217; citations, of which 32 are for newspaper stories, magazines, and newsletters; 25 letters, 20 testimonials/personal communications; and 17 videos. The remainder was for books (45) and various journal articles and reports.<br />
Now, I&#8217;d actually expect a number of &#8216;non-traditional&#8217; sources in a popular science book, one that&#8217;s hoping to get people to read more widely on the subject. But it&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve seen TV programs/videos, letters, and newspaper articles described as &#8216;scientific literature&#8217;. (This is not to say anything about the content of the book because I&#8217;ve only started looking through it. But it does show the commenters&#8217; claims to be somewhat hyperbolic.)</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2013/10/references-in-the-case-against-fluoride/">References in &#8216;The Case Against Fluoride&#8217;</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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		<title>Fluoride Free Hamilton misinformation on Dr Saunders talk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 11:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I see that Pat McNair has posted the following on the Fluoride Free Hamilton page. Since I can't comment there, I'm going to respond below, as it seems her recollection of what was said by the speaker is somewhat faulty. "I attended the free public lecture by Dr Graham Saunders, senior lecturer in inorganic chemistry [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that Pat McNair has posted the following on the Fluoride Free Hamilton page. Since I can&#8217;t comment there, I&#8217;m going to respond below, as it seems her recollection of what was said by the speaker is somewhat faulty.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I attended the free public lecture by Dr Graham Saunders, senior lecturer in inorganic chemistry at Waikato University, last night, titled “Fluoride, Friend or Foe?” which was sponsored by the Waikato branch of The Royal Society of NZ. Despite constantly assuring his audience that his area of expertise was restricted to the chemistry of fluoride (which cannot be disputed), he regularly strayed dangerously off that path onto the &#8220;pro-fluoride&#8221; bandwagon and showed himself to be obviously well out of his depth when questioned further on dental and medical issues by some of the more qualified members of the audience.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In fact, Dr Saunders was meticulously careful to acknowledge where his expertise stopped. On at least 2 occasions other audience members gave additional information relating to questions asked by others. He also &#8211; as is his right as an expert in the area of fluoride chemistry &#8211; pointed out where this had been misrepresented by those opposing fluoridation.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I was even more astounded to hear Dr Saunders’ reply when he was asked if he had taken part in the Council-run fluoride tribunal in May this year. He replied that no, he had not been consulted, which had really annoyed him and that he had since contacted the council to complain about it. Is Dr Saunders arrogant or just ignorant?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Dr Saunders is neither arrogant nor ignorant of this issue, &amp; his answer was more complex than it has been represented by Pat. He made it clear that he was concerned that the University&#8217;s scientists had not been asked to provide expert opinion to the Council (&amp; in fact a question from the floor asked him specifically &#8211; were you asked to provide advice?), but that he had made a personal written submission to the tribunal. He was not able to attend the actual hearings given other prior commitments, and yes, given his inability to attend he had expected that the Council might have contacted him to discuss some of the points that he made in his written submission.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Surely Dr Saunders is aware that the council had very publicly advertised the tribunal and had asked for written and oral submissions from any person or organisation that had an interest in the issue. All were accepted, read and analysed and the council decision was based on this evidence by a vote of 7/1.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>See above. He was aware and made that written submission.</p>
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		<title>The maths to achieve a fluoride load commensurate with chronic fluorosis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A colleague (an analytical chemist) has done the maths for us on the amount of water someone would have to drink in order to achieve a fluoride load commensurate with chronic fluorosis (around 20mg/kg dry matter in the diet). Food varies quite a bit in its water content, but they've assumed an average of 50% [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colleague (an analytical chemist) has done the maths for us on the amount of water someone would have to drink in order to achieve a fluoride load commensurate with chronic fluorosis (around 20mg/kg dry matter in the diet).</p>
<p>Food varies quite a bit in its water content, but they&#8217;ve assumed an average of 50% water content and an average daily intake (from the USDA figure for average Americans) of 2.18kg wet weight, so 1.06kg dry weight of food per day.</p>
<p>On that diet our hypothetical someone would then need to take in 21.3mg F- each day to experience chronic fluorosis. Until fluoridation was discontinued, Hamilton&#8217;s town supply water had 0.7-1ppm fluoride ie a maximum of 1mg/L. This means our someone would need to take in 21.3 L of water a day, and maintain that intake, for fluorosis to become a reality. (At this level water intoxication would be a real threat.)</p>
<p>The estimated mean highest daily F- intake in New Zealanders &#8211; any age group, &amp; from a combination of diet and town supply fluoridated water, is around 2.1mg/day (Cressey et al, 2010, J.Pub.Health.Dent 70: 327-336).</p>
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		<title>Drinking &#8216;pure&#8217; water</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>We've had quite a few comments lately along the lines of wanting fluoride removed so that we are drinking 'pure' water. However, the cessation of fluoridation by itself won't achieve that. Hamilton's water hasn't had fluoride added since supplies ran out after the HCC tribunal's decision. However, we're still getting 0.3ppm F- in our water [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had quite a few comments lately along the lines of wanting fluoride removed so that we are drinking &#8216;pure&#8217; water. However, the cessation of fluoridation by itself won&#8217;t achieve that.<br />
Hamilton&#8217;s water hasn&#8217;t had fluoride added since supplies ran out after the HCC tribunal&#8217;s decision. However, we&#8217;re still getting 0.3ppm F- in our water because that&#8217;s the level found in the Waikato river. There&#8217;s also chlorine, some calcium (more in areas with &#8216;hard&#8217; water) &amp; trace levels of various other elements &amp; compounds (Dr Ken Perrott written about this, plus there&#8217;s a list giving maximum allowable concentrations in the DWSNZ document).<br />
Even rain water won&#8217;t be &#8216;pure&#8217; in this sense as it will collect material from the atmosphere as it falls (&amp; in some circumstances may contribute to increased contaminant load). When there are algal blooms in the water, as happened a couple of summers ago, then this may result in odour issues (which indicates some form of contaminant has made it through the treatment plant).<br />
In fact, the Drinking Water Standards for NZ make it clear that drinking water is not &#8216;pure&#8217;: &#8220;The DWSNZ define the maximum concentrations of chemicals of health significance (MAVs) in water that, based on current knowledge, constitute no significant risk to the health of a person who consumes 2 L of that water a day over their lifetime (usually taken as 70 years).&#8221;</p>
<p>Source:<br />
<a href="http://www.health.govt.nz/publication/drinking-water-standards-new-zealand-2005-revised-2008">http://www.health.govt.nz/publication/drinking-water-standards-new-zealand-2005-revised-2008</a></p>
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		<title>Another example of a paper not showing what&#8217;s claimed for</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Another example of a paper not showing what's claimed for it: Let's look at Bataineh &amp; Nusier's 2006 report on the effects of sodium fluoride (NaF) on behaviour and reproduction in male rats. In the very first sentence of the abstract, we see that the experimental animals received either 100ppm or 300ppm NaF for 12 [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of a paper not showing what&#8217;s claimed for it:<br />
Let&#8217;s look at Bataineh &amp; Nusier&#8217;s 2006 report on the effects of sodium fluoride (NaF) on behaviour and reproduction in male rats. In the very first sentence of the abstract, we see that the experimental animals received either 100ppm or 300ppm NaF for 12 weeks, while the controls received normal drinking water (1.2ppm NaF). So the experimental rats were receiving a dose up to 2 orders of magnitude higher than what&#8217;s normally found in fluoridated town supply!<br />
Unsurprisingly the control rats continued to do what rats normally do. In other words, the dose makes the poison – this paper does nothing to bolster claims that fluoridated municipal water is harmful to health.<br />
But point this out and what do we get? Cries of &#8216;more excuses&#8217; and/or an immediate switch of attention to the next thing that appears to show the evils of fluoridation. It seems that the Gish Gallop is a technique not restricted to creationists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Sources:<br />
Bataineh, H.N., Nusier, M.K. (2006) Impact of NaF on aggression, sexual behaviour and fertility in male rats. Fluoride 39(4): 293-301</p>
<p><a href="http://www.donotlink.com/dem1">http://www.donotlink.com/dem1</a></p>
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		<title>Arguing against fluoridation</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A common technique of those arguing against fluoridation on the MSoF Facebook page is to dump large amounts of copypasta (from various sources) &amp; tell us that if we'd only read it we'd see the rightness of their case. Or else, we get a lengthy list of references, &amp; the same admonition. The problem is [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A common technique of those arguing against fluoridation on the MSoF Facebook page is to dump large amounts of copypasta (from various sources) &amp; tell us that if we&#8217;d only read it we&#8217;d see the rightness of their case. Or else, we get a lengthy list of references, &amp; the same admonition. The problem is that if you pick a paper or two at random &amp; do read them, you often find that they don&#8217;t say what&#8217;s claimed for them, or that they contain methodological errors that bring their findings into question.</p>
<p>For example: a study by Reddy et al (2011) is said to have found that fluoride accumulated at very high levels in rats&#8217; brains. The researchers used 2 groups of male rats: one experimental group, one control. There were only 6 animals in each group, which is a very small sample size &amp; means that the data could be skewed by a single abnormal result.</p>
<p>The control group supposedly received no fluoride, but then there was no information on fluoride levels in the tap water they drank or the rat chow they ate. This is a significant flaw &amp; I&#8217;d have thought it should have been picked up by peer review.<br />
The experimental rats apparently received 20ppm fluoride by nasogastric tube for 2 months. Actually, it&#8217;s not actually clear what dose they received: the abstract says 20ppm NaF, but the methods section says &#8220;20ppm concentration of fluoride&#8221;. These are 2 different things &amp; again, peer review should have picked this up &amp; required clarification. Either way the dose is about an order of magnitude higher than you&#8217;d find in fluoridated municipal water in New Zealand, which means that the paper didn&#8217;t support the commenter&#8217;s assertions of the harm done by fluoridation. Also, after those 2 months the researchers recorded 864 mg/kg F- in the rats&#8217; brains: given that a large proportion of fluoride is normally excreted, and some of the rest fixed in apatites in bone, this figure looks extremely high &amp; should surely have been questioned by the referees.<br />
And in addition, both groups of rats lost a great deal of weight during the course of the study. While the average body weight of the animals was 180g (+/-20g), after 2 months the control animals weighed on average 111g, while the experimental group was down to 93g (both +/- 2g). This strongly suggests they were either ill, or not receiving adequate food; furthermore, starvation can cause inflammatory changes to tissues &amp; so could itself explain the changes the researchers observed in the rats&#8217; nervous systems.</p>
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<p>Do people <em>read</em> these papers before they cite them?</p>
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<p>Sources:</p>
<p>Reddy, P.Y., Reddy, K.P., Kumar, K.P. (2011) <a href="http://jmas.in/To%20Tripresh/Neurodegenerative%20changes%20in%20different%20regions%20of%20brain,%20spinal%20cord%20and%20sciatic%20nerve%20of%20rats%20treated%20with%20sodium%20fluoride%20(F).pdf">Neurodegenerative changes in different regions of brain, spinal cord and sciatic nerve of rats treated with sodium fluoride.</a> J.Med.Allied Sci 1(1): 30-35</p>
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