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		<title>Health experts talk about fluoridation</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 10:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Health experts talk about fluoridation at the New Plymouth District Council meeting 3rd June 2015.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_isUyzHrLSs Experts who spoke Taranaki District Health Board, Rosemary Clement (Chief Executive Officer) 0:03 Taranaki District Health Board, Andrea Kelsen (Dental surgeon) 9:14 Taranaki District Health Board, Deneille Walden (DentalTherapist/Oral Health Educator) 18:13 Taranaki District Health Board, Dr Jonathan  [...]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2015/06/health-experts-talk-about-fluoridation/">Health experts talk about fluoridation</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health experts talk about fluoridation at the <a href="http://www.newplymouthnz.com/NR/rdonlyres/43CEC278-DF6F-41E1-9619-4CF92DC089B8/0/CouncilAgenda2June2015.pdf">New Plymouth District Council meeting</a> 3rd June 2015.</p>
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<p><strong>Experts who spoke</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_isUyzHrLSs?t=3s">Taranaki District Health Board, Rosemary Clement (Chief Executive Officer) 0:03</a></p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_isUyzHrLSs?t=9m14s">Taranaki District Health Board, Andrea Kelsen (Dental surgeon) 9:14</a></p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_isUyzHrLSs?t=18m13s">Taranaki District Health Board, Deneille Walden (DentalTherapist/Oral Health Educator) 18:13</a></p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_isUyzHrLSs?t=27m24s">Taranaki District Health Board, Dr Jonathan Jarman (Medical Officer of Health) 27:24</a></p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/_isUyzHrLSs?t=37m52s">Board of Taranaki DHB – Pauline Lockett 37:52</a></p>
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<p>Good news that the New Plymouth District Council will be <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/69217708/new-plymouth-district-councils-long-term-plan-deliberations-underway">looking at fluoridation</a>. They have voted for council officers to complete a report on the issue of fluoridation of the council&#8217;s water supply. The report will discuss the possibility of holding a poll on the issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do an upcoming post looking at what misinformation anti-fluoridationists said at the June 3rd meeting.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2015/06/health-experts-talk-about-fluoridation/">Health experts talk about fluoridation</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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		<title>People sleeping at the Fluoride Free Hamilton meeting</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Perrott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>"He put at least 6 people to sleep". Click to read article.  It's been a fine afternoon in Hamilton so I thought I would wander in to the Fluoride Free Hamilton Information meeting. Should have known better. Didn't stay long as the chairman announced first thing that the audience had to remain quiet  [...]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2013/09/people-sleeping-at-the-fluoride-free-hamilton-information-meeting/">People sleeping at the Fluoride Free Hamilton meeting</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 hundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling" style="--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-overflow:visible;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;" ><div class="fusion-builder-row fusion-row"><div class="fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last fusion-column-no-min-height" style="--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-margin-bottom:0px;"><div class="fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-column-wrapper-legacy"><div id="attachment_167" style="width: 210px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="http://hippynzspeaks.tumblr.com/post/61934293012/sunday-22-september-was-a-fluoride-info-day-i"><img data-recalc-dims="1" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-167" data-attachment-id="167" data-permalink="https://msof.nz/2013/09/people-sleeping-at-the-fluoride-free-hamilton-information-meeting/tumblr_mtipiyiz2f1qg2on8o1_1280/" data-orig-file="https://i0.wp.com/msof.nz/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mtipiyiz2f1qg2on8o1_1280.jpg?fit=599%2C900&amp;ssl=1" data-orig-size="599,900" data-comments-opened="1" data-image-meta="{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.6&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D3200&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1379860550&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;200&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;800&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0769230769231&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}" data-image-title="Sleeping at the Fluoride Free meeting" data-image-description="&lt;p&gt;The ‘dentist’ they had speaking was so boring he put at least 6 people to sleep (including a candidate for council).&lt;/p&gt;
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http://hippynzspeaks.tumblr.com/post/61934293012/sunday-22-september-was-a-fluoride-info-day-i&lt;/p&gt;
" data-image-caption="" data-large-file="https://i0.wp.com/msof.nz/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mtipiyiz2f1qg2on8o1_1280.jpg?fit=599%2C900&amp;ssl=1" class="wp-image-167 size-medium" src="https://i0.wp.com/msof.nz/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mtipiyiz2f1qg2on8o1_1280.jpg?resize=200%2C300" alt="Sleeping at the Fluoride Free meeting" width="200" height="300" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/msof.nz/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mtipiyiz2f1qg2on8o1_1280.jpg?resize=200%2C300&amp;ssl=1 200w, https://i0.wp.com/msof.nz/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_mtipiyiz2f1qg2on8o1_1280.jpg?fit=599%2C900&amp;ssl=1 599w" sizes="(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-167" class="wp-caption-text">&#8220;He put at least 6 people to sleep&#8221;. Click to read article.</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s been a fine afternoon in Hamilton so I thought I would wander in to the <a href="http://www.donotlink.com/demg">Fluoride Free Hamilton Information meeting</a>. Should have known better.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t stay long as the chairman announced first thing that the audience had to remain quiet during the meeting, no heckling or questions were allowed &#8211; anyone with a question had to write it down and hand to an organiser. A few of us gasped &#8220;What, no questions or comments from the floor?&#8221; The chairman responded &#8211; &#8220;Last warning&#8221; &#8211; this would treated as a disruption and we would be thrown out.</p>
<p>So I left. No point really. This wasn&#8217;t an &#8220;information meeting&#8221; it was a propaganda meeting &#8211; in the Stalinist mould.</p>
<p>On the way out I told one of the organisers this was a highly unusual procedure for an information meeting. She assured me that if I wrote down my question I would get a chance to ask it. I picked up the pen and paper, whereupon another organiser assured me that a written question might be read out to the audience by the chairman and the panel would comment. However, no member of the audience could ask their own question or respond to answers.</p>
<p>Seems incredible, but it is consistent with the way Fluoride Free bans comments on their Facebook pages. But it really is hypocritical for them to then moan because the DHBs refuse to &#8220;debate&#8221; them. And for them to turn up to DHB meetings, as they did in Hastings, to ask questions.</p>
<p>It really also puts those commenters here who ally with Fluoride Free in an ethically awkward position. We welcome their questions and comments (as long as there is no abuse or harassment). Perhaps they should have a word to the Fluoride Free people.</p>
<p>Oh well, a wasted Sunday afternoon. But every cloud has a silver lining &#8211; I did manage to get in a good walk &#8211; and that has been difficult lately with the rain and the World Cup races.</p>
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<p>The post <a href="https://msof.nz/2013/09/people-sleeping-at-the-fluoride-free-hamilton-information-meeting/">People sleeping at the Fluoride Free Hamilton meeting</a> appeared first on <a href="https://msof.nz">Making Sense of Fluoride</a>.</p>
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